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Very impressive job on the front drivers vision port.

I second that Razz

I wouldn't be anxious to try that, what with my stubby fingers and all. let alone make it functional, that looks great.

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Well boys, the vision port is going to be static, sorry! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_cry Once I put the vision port glass block in to test fit there is no real way to make it function as the glass block cannot rotate to go back inside the tank which I would need it to do. On the real thing my understanding is you push the cover up into position and then slide the glass block up into position. Of course I can't do that so fixed it is.
On the otherhand with the periscope glass block in it does look very accurate in that it fills the hole completely like the real thing...
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While messing around with the back end and relocating the large stowage boxes I thought I would fit the Notek convoy light on the bottom of the bin. I got this little light a couple of months ago from Germany. I took it apart and installed "glass" (clear plastic) and paintd the top green and the bottom red. On the real thing there is a flap that flips up and down to cover one or the other light panels. Depending on what It looks like when I light it up I might put it on but if it looks cool with all the colours lit I will simulate the cover ripped off! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin

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Next I wanted to add the final bracing to the upper hull and that is done. I used an aluminum strip screwed into the sides to help pull them a little closer and super glue under the ceter section. Once that was done somemore 2 part epoxy the secure it permanently...

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so now started work on the back deck. This is going to take a while! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_wtf

the pictures pretty much speak for themselves. Cut 2 panels, glued on scale drawing,

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rough cut the holes,

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Started building and fitting styrene for the grills, attached the circular fan covers I got from the famous "pantiger" upper hull I bought for peanuts. These are actually the correct covers for the "A" and are very,very close to correct scale.

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I used paper thin styrene to represent the thin bolt on plates for each section and added bolts in position

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I remember it was either on this forum or one of the others there was a big argument about how many bolts were on the antenna housing on the Panther. Some said 3, some said 4. Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy
From my research on the D's and A's if the antenna housing had a little edge rounded to go around the adjacent fan covers it has 3 bolts. If the antenna housing was perfectly round (As on most G's) it had 4. So as you can see here I did 3 which matches the Munster Panther "A" which I am using for a lot of reference on the decks.

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So I figure it will take me a week to finish these back deck sections and this weekend is Canadian Thanksgiving so we are going away so it may be a couple of weeks before I do a new update....
It's coming together though! Most of the really tough structural stuff is done. I know the angle of the bottom glacis plate is wrong but I really don't want to mess with the lower hull too much so I think I will leave it for now. Sorry rivet counters! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin

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Nice Work Dean

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Thanks Greg! Smile

Well, I wasn't going to post anything for a while but after about 5 hours work I finally finished one side panels with the grills! Yippee!!!

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Now I still have to do some finishing on them but it's just minor details. Before I did the one end I also test fitted my screens made out of a kitchen splatter cover for a frying pan. They will have small frames fitted around them out of copper wire or styrene I haven't decided.
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Also I re-did the air intake hole. Here is the original way it was from my other Panther
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and my replacement
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While grills were drying I decided to see if my Notek light worked so I plugged it into my Sherman LED in it so even though I did put in green glass it still comes up red so I think I will put the cover on the top the way it would have been done on the real thing.
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And so we continue.... Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin

I thought it was time to do the hatches. I was not looking forward to it because I wanted to make them sort of operational but easy enough if one got snapped off during battle it would be easy to fix.
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I also wanted to make it sort of look like the real thing so I needed a tube that would have an inner tube to slide up and down and what I came up with was the end of a syringe cut off and mounted to look like the main support tube on the real thing.
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Then I used a thinned down piece of copper tube that fits nice and snug in the syringe end.
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well I waited for the superglue to dry thought I would add the lift handles. Now, this is a trick I use to mount my handles. I don't think I have shown it before. Sometimes getting the holes right for the handles can be tough. you make them too narrow so you have to bend the handle ends in to fit in the holes or too wide and you have to open up the handle too much and it doesn't look right so here is what I do. Make your perfect shaped handle out of a paper clip and have the ends longer than they should be so they will go into the plastic. Drill one small hole for one end of the handle to go in as a guide. Don't drill it deep just a small hole to seat the end in. Now, gently touch a hot soldering iron to it and put some slight pressure on it and it will start to go down into the plastic. Watch your depth so they don't go too far in. Once you have it right and have stopped applying heat you will find that it is pretty sturdy and shouldn't need glue. Also you can see a little of the melted plastic pushes up around the handle so you can score this with an xacto knife and it will look like weld bead! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin
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Now I wanted to make the stops so some 2mm styrene and some sturdy brass sheet and got to work on them. I used a saw to make a split down the plastic on the ends of a long piece then cut it in half to make the 2 stops. The brass I drew the rough shape on and formed it with a dremel on slow with the piece held in hobby forceps.
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you have to play with them a bit so the brass fits right but once you have them how you like them then you drill a small hole where the pintle would go through. Take your time and drill slow to go through the plastic and brass.
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Once you have the hole drilled through you need a pin so I use plastic trees from old model kits. Heat it, stretch it and you have your pins! Just cut it and push the styrene through the hole till you get it to a thick enough part that the pin is snug but not so snug that the brass catch doesn't move. Then cut it off close the side and again, using the soldering iron bring it in close to the end of the pin and just touch it gently and it will form a nice little bolt head. Do it on the other side and viola! you have a functioning catch! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin
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The bottom release handles are simply some copper wire and some really thin copper wire. Drill your hole, bend the thicker copper wire at the bottom 90 degrees making sure you don't make it too long that it comes out the other side but long enough to mount the spring wire. Make sure you use just a slightly smaller drill bit for the hole and you can use the soldering gun idea again to mount it. wind the thin wire around the 90 degree neck and you have a nice looking hatch catch...
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I secured the posts underneath and the thin copper post with 2 part epoxy and before it set real hard did a test fit. I also did a rough fit of the hatch catches to see if I had the right height.
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You sir are a mad man! Shocked

Seriously though, awesome job, can't wait for more. thumbs up

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Don't worry Ed there are some tougher details coming up! LOL!
Now working on the travel lock. But first put on the periscope covers using the soldering iron method again. Make your little part and apply soldering gun to brass to make it sink into plastic until you get it to the right depth.


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So, on to the travel lock. I want it to move up and down so first drill it through from both ends. Do it SLOWLY and watch all the time that you are going straight in. I do a little bit from each end at a time rather than one end then the other. Don't ask me why but it seems to work better...


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Then cut the lock from the frame


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Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_ideafor the rod I use my old HL antennas they are a fairly strong steel and work quite well in any applications where you need a small rod.


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Then I added some detail with the frame pivot lock bar (hell if I know what the real name is!) On the real thing it looks like it releases the travel lock from the frame. It has a small chain so you don't loose the pintle when you open it. quick mount to test up down too. Also in this shot you can see where I cut the "V" notch into the guide arm.


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Still quite a bit to do. I want to put some details on the chainlink piece that actually locks the barrel in place. Talk about over engineering a part! They could have just done a piece of curved stell over the top but noooo lets use something that looks like a full machined drive chain! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy

The HL ventilator that goes under the travel lock is not even close to what it looks like and it's going to be a bitch to scratch build. Stay tuned! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_wtf

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You're really going all out on this one :O I'm impressed, those hatch latches are awesome.

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By the time I'm done probably the same amount of work I put into my KT although I broke down and bought a zim kit so that is going to save me some. I wanted driver/radio hatches to work because I intend to crew this one most of the time. It was fun building the hatch latches though. going to open the back turret hatch and have a loader sticking his head out too. Maybe giving a fist pump or something like that.

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Thanks so much for the kind words guys, it makes me want to do more and more but at some point you gotta stop on one item and move on or you go crazy! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_lol

Having said that I decided to do a little more on the travel lock! affraid  I want to simulate the chain more so I added some little round pieces of styrene to simulate the pins between the links and using a really sharp xacto I cut some groves in the links and opened the V notches where the the lock handles connect.

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Then I decided to make the frame look proper and used some brass .8mm bolts I have for the plates that screwed into the hull
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Next it was time to tackle the ventilator cover. I had been humming and hawing how to do this but decided to make it out of styrene. It took 2 tries to get a shape I was happy with and the right size by eye balling pictures, the travel lock and the tank hull.

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Also in looking at the pics there was a small rain guard around the ventilator so I soaked some thin styrene in glue and shapped it till I was happy. You will notice I painted where the ventilator was going to go black ahead of time as I figured it might be tough to do it later.

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Now, I got so into making this ventilator cover that I forgot to take pics as I went along! But basically I got the shape to where I was happy. I added the front rounded piece and some small side pieces as on the real one and sanded and rounded them off to the main part. Since the real thing is cast I started adding Tamiya putty to the top to get the slight curve and thickness right. The nice part about that putty is if you spread it around as soon as you put it on it will somewhat smooth and self level. so I put on 2 layers to get the center built up. I then ever so gently drilled the 2 depressions that are above the rear legs.

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O.K. one more of the ventilator cover from the other side. This pic is kinda neat as the brass periscope cover is reflecting in under the ventilator cover!

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And here is the whole assembly test fitted... AND THAT'S IT FOR THE TRAVEL LOCK AND VENTILATOR COVER!!! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy ....maybe....

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Got a little more done. One of the issues I had when I cut the rear panels out was I basically destroyed the vertical lines of molded countersunk bolts so I knew at some point I was going to have to fix this. So first I filled in the old ones with putty and sanded them off. I also filled in the rear lift hooks holes as they are a little out of position on the deck and will be re-located. Next I drew a line up the hull and marked off where the bolts should be. I then drilled .8mm holes right down through except where the holes are on the aluminum strut. Those I drilled as deep as possible. Next the simulate the countersunk holes I use a 2mm bit and gave it 2 and a 1/2 gentle rotations. cleaned the holes out and put in some more of the .8mm brass bolts I had with some super glue on the bottom of them to lock them in. Gently pushed them into the holes with an xacto knife and set them at the right depth. They are really close to the same size and once primed and painted I think they should blend right in nicely...
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Next, I wanted to open the rear engine hatch so I can locate my on/off and smoke switch. so proceeded to cut this out using small drill holes for the corners and heated up an xacto knife for the straight parts with a candle. I have tried little saws, wire, thread, dental floss, etc... nothing really worked for me as well as the candle knife method.
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now one of the things I learned a long, long, time ago in 1/35th world is that styrene shims can be your friend when opening hatches! In this case one corner got cut off a little too square so out comes the thin, thin styrene and regular thin model glue and new corner applied. Still has to be shaped with sanding of course.
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Now, this also works great with the hatch openings themselves. Lining them makes a nice smooth clean edge and makes the gaps more thin and realistic looking. In case you didn't see it before I have also done this on the front hatches and the rear deck plates to correct some misshapen edges and smooth them off.
so start with a piece that is long enough to go all the way around. Soak the side of the hatch and the middle of the strip and wait a minute for the strip to soften a bit and then stick it on.
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Repeat this process and make your way around the hatch and when it has dried a little you can nick out the sections where you don't want it. In this case I didn't want it in front of the hinges.
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I left the female end of the hinges on the body of the tank and will scratch them on the hatch but will make them a little more to scale too as they are a little to big and clunky compared to the real thing. and more proper bolt heads! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin

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Well, fail on the hatch. I did it all up, drilled the holes, put pins in but couldn't keep them as straight as I wanted to so then it occurred to me, why am I dinking around trying to make the hatch function? Just make it like my KT everything is in place just little magnet hold it on and be done with it so that is what I am going to do. you simply lift the hatch off to get at the switches. Still have to trim and file and sand a bit but you get the idea...
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you will also notice I have started to add handles in the right spots and also did the lift hooks. These were stock but they are too fat compared to the real thing so I thinned them out.
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so while the hatch and stuff was drying I decided to tackle the other big thing I wanted to do on this tank, the exhaust. You remember I bought 2 Pantiger uppers and used the cooling fan covers on this tank. Well they also came with the triple exhaust.
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I was going to work on them to make them better but really, the pipes and the attachment point are not right so had to come up with a plan. I decided since the smaller cooling pipes actually are bent in 2 spots I wasn't going to try metal as it would really be hard to get 2 to match closely I think. So I opted for styrene tubes and used my trusty candle to slowly heat and bend the tubing till I got the 2 to look close. I am using the single exhaust and cut the pipe off to use the base.
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I drilled 2 holes in the side and made them oblong to fit the pipes in. I sealed them in place with 2 part epoxy so it will take some force to break them off.
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Next I wanted to add the flanges that are on the pipes where they change direction on the base so got some brass tube and cut it thin with dremel.
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I used a slightly bigger diameter tube so I can simulate the flange coming out and will add a bolt head and nut to it late. So to do this you simply squeeze the ring with small needle nose pliers
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And then squeeze the front of the ring together and viola! you have a neat little flange and it is tight on the tube but just to make sure I did some dots of crazy glue under the ring.
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And here is how they compare. I still have to bend the large center brass tube. I think they should look pretty good once finished up... Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin
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So I think I have all the detailing on the back deck done to the point it is ready to mount me thinks:
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So I decided to take a whack at finishing the zim on the 2 storage boxes and thought what the heck why not add some PE I had left over from doing my L70. Just because I am a glutton for punishment! So first thing I did was add some hatch plates to the top of the boxes and then finished the zim on the whole box. I will milliput the seams shortly to smooth everything out. So then I went to work on the latches. So here is the result. There are some guys on here that solder them and make them so neat and tidy I have no idea how! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_lol But this is about as good as these old hands and eyes can do...
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With these pics you get my fingers to show the scale of this stuff. It's little! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy
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And just for fun I made them operational for the time being. I don't know whether I will leave them this way or not... Would be a pity and pain if they need to be replaced because they opened and got broke off...
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OMG the detail is insane ...never seen so much detail how do you even see that stuff it's so small

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It is crazy ain't it! LOL! glasses and a head magnifier and a LOT of patience Greg. The Panthers have a lot of crap on them so it's going to take a while to finish this one for sure. I am really hoping to put the hammer down at Christmas break and get it done but there is still lots to do so we will see. Would like to have it ready for Hachleopard's New Year battle day Feb. 1. for sure...

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A slow week for construction I'm afraid. With a full time job and wifey having me do things there is never enough time! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_cry The other thing is most of what I am doing here is first time stuff so it takes a little trial and error to progress through the mods. Like anything by about the 3 or 4th one I can almost guarantee it will take 1/2 the time! 
I average 2 or 3 hours a night and on the weekends sometimes 4 or 5 a night but this weekend was a bit of a bust too much to do but got a couple of more things done. 

First laid up the storage bins on the back of the tank. I have the convoy light wired so drilled the hole out and set it up
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Then using Bob Smith Plastic Cure glue, (the best I know of) and some heavier clamps tacked the boxes on.
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Well those dried and hardened thought I would tackle the towing pintle. The one that's modeled on the HL seems to be modeled on the "A" at Munster. So I started fabricating that from a reference book that Hotte sent me (thanks buddy!) and this book has been invaluable in planning and building this project. So spent a couple or 3 hours doing it it up BUT, from what I can tell this is not the correct one! The more I looked at other reference the more I realized at least for the "A"s, this is not the correct one. So I used some online illustrations and my Panther in Detail by Culver & Feist. A great reference book to start over Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_crazy and build the one I think is more accurate.
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And here are the results! Brass pipe, some putty, little chain and copper itty bitty drill bit a little solder and about 3 hours work!
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And fitted my power and smoker switch box into the upper hull. Just fitted it, didn't click it in yet!
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Hopefully I have a more productive week this week! Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A" - Page 2 Icon_e_biggrin

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nice job on the switches where do you get all these small chains

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Got the last length of chain at Hornet Hobbies in T.O. that they had. But look around it is actually ship builders where you find the finest chains. I know somebody posted on another forum about it. Will see if I can find again...

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I think this is the most detailed build I have seen on the forum.

It will be interesting to see the finished product. Very Happy

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