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PostSubject: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeMon Dec 28, 2015 12:02 pm

Hi All

  Been looking at this site for awhile and really enjoy the way its put together.Just got back into rc did the whole heli,truck and boat thing awhile back. My main thing I always go back to is military models, so now is my chance to do both.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeMon Dec 28, 2015 1:05 pm

Welcome to the forum lots of good people on here if you need anything

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeTue Dec 29, 2015 12:45 am

Welcome aboard! As always feel free to ask whatever you need info on, we're often eager to help out Razz

Interested in any particular tanks yet? Looking for a good source?

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeTue Dec 29, 2015 9:45 am

thanks for the welcome. I know its hated but I bought a mato all metal tiger. This is my base platform which i'll strip down and add an aber photo etch detail set to. Haven't picked a color scheme yet,doing some research on Michael Wittmann to see if he used an early tiger or he went to a mid right away.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeTue Dec 29, 2015 9:57 am

None of us hate the all metal Mato stuff. Is it the new one with the TK22 already in it or old electronics?

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeTue Dec 29, 2015 10:21 am

its the new one
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 4:57 am

well just got my tiger not  impressed at all. To start with barrel elevation is not working the servo connection was found in the hull .The recoil servo seems to be doa. The paint job is brutal to say the least can't touch it without causing chips and scratches.Contacted matomart  guess will see if they stand by their product I'll update the process if anyone is intrested let me know.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 9:25 am

rxp1, looking at Mato's site, it doesn't look like the Tiger has servo elevation so maybe it is actually the servo recoil (Which doesn't make sense either as it looks like it has a Heng Long recoil and not a serbo recoil) ? Anyway sorry to hear about this and good luck.

If you end up having to work this out yourself there is lots of knowledge here on the Clark board which is what your tank is shipped with I believe. The all metal RTR version, correct ?
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 4:45 pm

Hi mike ya it has servo elevation its a futuba which is actually a decent servo use them in my align helis.The barrel recoil looks like a generic brand mini servo. Great to offer help with clark board that will really help, not to sure in the inner workings of a clark board. Also it is the ready to run version well almost ready to run lol
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 4:54 pm

If you are spending that kind of money on a metal Tiger repaint it anyway as it will be hopelessly wrong...

Between Mike and Jordan (Strato50) they will be able to get you up and running no problem. Even I can do most of the servo stuff and recoil. Radio setup is where I am useless eh Michael... Razz Razz Razz

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 5:08 pm

you hit the nail on the head about the paint, oh well was going to repaint anyways.Going with a complete rebuild on the outside with aber kits to update the clamps ,cables , cleaning rods and a few other items.
      Again thank guys for offering to help going to need it lol. Still not boiling mad about this tank I always enjoy challenge but usually its my own fault ie flying to close to trees with my helis
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 6:28 pm

Setting up a tank with a Clark board from scratch can be a pain if you've never done it before or havent worked through a conversion. 

It seems like nobody bothered testing your tank out and just shipped it parts in-place. A bit lame but not a nightmare. First thing that comes to mind is servo wires in the wrong place, wrong order, or backwards... all possible, but it won't break anything. Take a run down Clarks set-up page and see if everything is plugged in right.

http://www.clark-model.com/eng/prod_rx20/index.html

Beyond that they might not have bothered to turn on servo-recoil, which is pretty dumb considering (I assume) they didn't include a programming remote. That requires help from someone who has one! ><


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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 6:34 pm

Just occur to me also that servo elevation by default is NOT active so you might have to check to see if it is actually turn on. Also, don't be fool with the Futaba label on the servo. There are many knock-offs with Futaba stickers on them. I have gotten some off the web that has a Futaba model number on it and then found it they don't even look the same as the real thing.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 6:35 pm

MikeC wrote:
Just occur to me also that servo elevation by default is NOT active so you might have to check to see if it is actually turn on. Also, don't be fool with the Futaba label on the servo. There are many knock-offs with Futaba stickers on them. I have gotten some off the web that has a Futaba model number on it and then found it they don't even look the same as the real thing.

Exactly Mike, I'm wondering if it's even turned on... which wouldnt surprise me but it's still kinda stupid on Mato's part.

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 6:50 pm

Well, I think they think it is like RX-18, plug and play, one setting only.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 7:02 pm

can we see some pics of the paint

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeWed Jan 13, 2016 8:43 pm

lots of info guys when I get home Thursday I'll start checking all the things you guys have posted.You maybe right about the servos being knock offs because if I recall there was no grommet covering on the base of the servo protecting the wires.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeThu Jan 14, 2016 9:20 pm

ok here comes the questions
                            1) on a clark board what is the position of the barrel recoil servo and elevation servo plug in from the turret.
                            2) it has sound and sometimes movement in the lower half when firing does this mean its been programed or is it standard to all clark boards.

 good news it runs so all is not lost just have to get the elevation and recoil worked out.

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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeThu Jan 14, 2016 9:38 pm

Rxp1, check out strato's comment earlier and you will see the location where the servos are suppose to go.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeFri Jan 15, 2016 4:31 am

oh sorry left my glasses at work, thanks found the link on his reply .
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2016 7:55 am

Ok quick update on my sick kitty, been in contact with matomart and I 've been told that they are going to send me a new turret. Something new, the sound is now missing wow chase one gremlin another one shows up lol. Starting to think its cursed. Now quick question to the experts if a clark board fails the whole system should not work ie movement and lights?. I still have turret rotation, full track movement  and lights not sure if that helps
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2016 3:09 pm

Just wondering could someone post their trim settings on their radio.Wondering if I moved something its 2.4 mato system thanks
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2016 6:20 pm

Like most board, there are individual components. So you could have one failing (i.e. No sound) and yet everything else is working, or one motor control failed and the other track and everything else will still work.

The trim shouldn't have that much of an effect. When you plug the servos in the proper place, what happens ? Do you even get a slight movement to indicate power is going to them ?

Also, if you have a Sony remote we can also try walking you thru with programming on the Clark to check on different things.
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeSat Jan 16, 2016 9:56 pm

when I plug in the servos and power up the barrel elevates slightly up and down , then I have no control of it. It will hum like it is locked into place. yes I have a sony remote its from a new tv  does that matter?If it helps I can list what is working
                        1) forward ,reverse and turning
                        2) turret rotation
                        3) headlights and cannon light
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                         1) barrel recoil and elevation
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PostSubject: Re: new (old)guy from ottawa area   new (old)guy from ottawa area Icon_minitimeSun Jan 17, 2016 5:03 am

Hmmm well sounds like the servo recoil might be turned off on the board. There is a specific Sony remote that is used for these boards, I'll try to find out which. I think it's around $10, and you need it to turn different features off and on.

Sound might just be that the volume control wire is loose or disconnected. The sound won't work without it plugged in even if the speaker is still plugged in.

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