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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:20 pm

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:38 pm

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Whats stumping me is a good way to make the front idler wheels adjustable, or under some spring tension so that they always exert a force forward, keeping the tracks taught..

Hey Strato, maybe the method they used for the Elefant will work or similar.


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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:01 pm

I'm not sure what the polystyrene sheet will be able to handle stress wise, but I'm considering a few options.

On many WW1 tanks they had a screw-adjustable tension system seen here:


I was thinking something similar to that, in brass tube, with a spring over top that will push the idle wheel forward, giving it some tension, as well as some shock absorption!

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:11 am

Hey guys, an update!

I'm going to use the Panzer 3 tracks & electronics so I've ordered a donor tank & spare set of tracks & 12 extra roadwheels from Mato, with my MKVIII using 12 roadwheels per side.

I've also decided that to make the tracks look more WW1-ish, I'm going to create a hybrid of sorts. Ive bought a few strips of polystyrene "C" channel strips, 1/4" wide, that I will cut and glue to every track link. They fit right over the 'contact' area of each link, with plenty of clearance between each plastic piece with a nice flat surface to bond to.. I hope theyre strong enough.

Super tedious. Might not even work... BUT I don't know if it's ever been tried! With 2 full sets of P3 tracks on this project, that comes to 368 links~ altogether... Oh man.

Also Ive come up with a spring & brass tube assembly to act as a track tensioner, up front. Pics will come when I actually build it!


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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:41 am

Some updates! Smile

My donor Panzer 3 came in the mail today so it quickly succumbed to my tools for its parts! Arrive 3 days after payment, woohoo Mato.

I cut the roadwheel axles out of 7/32" brass tube, CA-glued the roadwheels together & mounted them onto the hull. This baby has no suspension... this baby DON'T NEED no suspension! Wink I only had the 12 roadwheels from the donor tank, so MATO is shipping me another full set of 12 once they get some in stock.

I used a piece of .050" aircraft grade aluminum to mount the gearboxes, and bolted them down, to avoid over stressing the plastic hull. They still require some bracing. Most of the remaining cosmetic work will involve shaping a cover for the rear deck & rear hull, so I have easy access to the gears.

This tank uses exactly 2 full sets of Panzer 3 tracks, and they just so happened to fit PERFECTLY on the first try, without adding or removing any links. What a miracle! No return rollers, yet... If I can remove the set on the donor tank without damaging them, I may install them, but as things are the track goes around the hull very smoothly.

I used some steel washers, 2 sizes of brass tube that interlock, and some .025" piano wire to coil 4 springs for the "tensioner" system, as pictured. This allows the front idler wheel (actually a P3 drive sprocket) to push outwards, keeping some tension on the track. It works well, and also allows me an easy method of removing the track.















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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:30 pm

abosultely amazing, I could only wish I had half the talent you do...

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:38 pm

Oh Ya i'm liking that looks Awesome nice job
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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:00 am

Lots of progress today! Working on the 'engine cover', I just need a whole bunch more rare-earth magnets and stuff to hold things together.

I discovered 8 dead AA batteries in a leftover HL radio I had so.. I havent been able to test out the guts yet, dang batteries!

Motors are mounted & reinforced, very strong and rigid so far.

Next BIG step will be installing the HL innards, and revving this baby up Smile Then 368 individual 'track pad' installations... ><






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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:23 am

More pics... engines re-aligned, some detail parts from the PnzIII donor have been added here and there, she runs really well...

I need to step-down the stock HL gearboxes, I remember reading that this could be done!



Simple, effective engine cover! Instant gearbox access!! Very Happy




Prototype "track links" made from styrene U channels.. they actually work, so far! 364 links to go...

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:27 am

Coming along quite nicely Very Happy


Captain Action had better bring that 1/16 "Indy" figure to the next meet Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:36 am

I want a Colonel Vogel figure too! Oddly enough, even on eBay I can only get 'mint in box' action figures of this guy, when I just want an open one to play with!

...I will NEVER open a mint package Wink


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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:58 pm

This thing is going to look great all weathered up and bunch of stowage on it.

How about a video of this thing in action or are we going to have to wait until next year?

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:58 am

So, it RUNS now! The PnzIII donor HL tank had a couple broken wires inside that worried me for a few minutes, but I fixed em... Even the volume control coming loose seems to wreak havoc on the RX-18.

All the individual track 'pads' are now glued on and surprisingly resilient. I was sanding the edges down on my tabletop belt sander, and they didn't move at all. I have about 100 spares anyway !!

Some detail work, lots of eye screws & the engine grill. The details on this tank are something I've never really done before; lots of odds and ends, equipment, cable reels, timber, barbed wire and tools. I want to scratch build a few things but may order some equipment, ammo and storage boxes and the like.





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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:19 pm

OMG... YOU MADE IT!!!! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:26 pm

The tracks look good Strato, but how is the traction? You might have to add a ridge to get some grip.

Really liking how it's turning out, we're going to have to start calling you " Rex"! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:56 am

i love this tank you put a lot of work into it great looking tank would be nice to see it in action and you should make a nice display for it when you show it off
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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:39 am

So far in my mind, this tank will be awesome at going in a straight line!

I suspect grass will be a major issue for turning, its just so long and relatively narrow. Dirt shouldn't give it any issues though.

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:10 pm

...Glued track 'pads' will be a problem when it turns on grass field.
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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:59 pm

So, I finally got the wheels in the mail.

They sent me twelve Panzer IV wheels. They're smaller, and not quite the same looks wise. They won't work for me. Oh, will this never end Sad

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:43 pm


Hey Strato, If you don't end up using for anything, I might buy them from you.
I got a side project I'm putting together.

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:14 pm

Once againg this is a nice tank build, I cant waight to push it into a ditch..



oh I mean..I hope it doe's not go into a ditch.....

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:56 pm

Stince wrote:

Hey Strato, If you don't end up using for anything, I might buy them from you.
I got a side project I'm putting together.

Hey, no problem! There are are only 12 of them, and regular panzer 4 has 16, so I wonder how they still managed to goof it up Razz

I managed to find someone on RCU that has an extra set of P3 wheels, hopefully I get them soon!!


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Once againg this is a nice tank build, I cant waight to push it into a ditch..



oh I mean..I hope it doe's not go into a ditch.....

This tank is longer than any ditch our field has! Wink It's turning I'll have issues with...

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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:17 pm

I've made some progress! Thanks to Buckeye36 (RCU) I got the last bunch of panzer III wheels I needed, so, I started painting! Woohoo!

Also a big thank you to sassgrunt (RCU) for the Republic of Hatay decals! They are really sharp Shocked

anyhoo I did a pretty simple spray job of light and dark brown, home depot paint Used the darker brown for some depth and around more 'dirty' areas of the tank.

I'm in the process of giving it a highlighting wash in dark grey (acrylic... water beads off the basecoat so it has a neat effect). The last pics are in the halfway done the wash phase.

Final phase is a clear coat in "frosted window" clear, from home depot. That stuff is awesome bounce








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PostSubject: Re: MK VII / Last Crusade WW1 Tank    Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:49 pm

Nice build and I see you gave it a little wash, maybe add a darker (gray) wash to highlight your details, seams and vents. I also have that Comander your looking for but still in the box and Im keeping him BUT I am looking out for one for you. They are hard to find I do not see many at the toy shows at all ..

Do you have a Indy to go on that tank ?

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