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PostSubject: Re: Big Mike's Recoil system & manlet mounts   Big Mike's Recoil system & manlet mounts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 17, 2019 3:59 pm

Had to give up on leaving the Airsoft feed ramp in place... However have finished the design for the universal compact recoil unit (Universal as in can be used with Shermans/Stug/Panther side elevation units).

Size comparisons...
Original Clark Clone (Left), JCC Compact Recoil (Centre), JCC Universal Servo Recoil (Right)
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Yes the Universal is a bit fatter in body, but will come with multiple options.
  • Impact Spring/Recoil system (Similar to Centre)

  • Direct Linkage Recoil System (on Right side)

  • Option of Tails: Standard long end cam style/Servo Linkage

  • Maximum 19mm (3/4") stroke with tail installed



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Some dedicated views of the Universal Recoil Unit

Showing off the new side elevation groove
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New servo location (right side of turret)
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When installed in a side elevation mount this end makes it super compact compared to the original HL unit.
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PostSubject: Re: Big Mike's Recoil system & manlet mounts   Big Mike's Recoil system & manlet mounts - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Aug 18, 2019 12:33 am

So I redesigned the next Gen JCC Compact recoil unit.

First Prototype? To be installed in my youngest son's Jagdpanther.
Reason? In the July weekend at the KW Garrison, my youngest actually broke the 3D printed barrel (the part that the servo actuates) from hitting the JP's long barrel sideways over and over...
Perfect time to rebuild (or excuse)….

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New Mantlet mount printed and the brass sleeve for guiding the barrel under recoil (Measured to fit the front edge of the ‘saukopf’ mantlet).

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Sleeve is just push fit into place currently (It will be secured or CA'd next...)

Actual function of the recoil w/o any lubrication used...


Next week I will 3D print a replacement ‘saukopf’ with a lower axis IR Emitter port.
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Mantlet modeling complete... Now to print it tonight and do the trial and error fitment...

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Saukopf printed... I'll fit it when I get home...
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Complete assembly with 3d printed mantlet. Still needs the IR Emitter tube installed. Brass sleeve and mantlet are a very good friction fit and will not need to be screwed together.

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You can see the brass sleeve for the barrel just inside the mantlet, it was a pita. 16mm OD brass tube into a 15.7mm opening = a bunch of filing and brute force to install the sleeve.

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In full extension.

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Maximum barrel retraction of 19mm with elevation tails.
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Final version of the Gen 4 is complete...
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The unit will come with a spring & one linkage for impacts (Z-link shown is what I want the pliers for).
Both standard and servo linkage tails.
Can also be used with side elevation systems (Panther/Sherman/Stug, & to which tails are not needed unless you use the spring).
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The production of Gen 4 universal has begun....

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Each Body/barrel has been sanded already to have smooth operation... Bottom right is one of the three prototypes... (One is mounted already in Justin's JP, one mounted to the bulldog mantlet in the lower left.)
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Designing the next generation universal recoil kit.

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A few more components, but an even smaller footprint. Current design precludes usage in a Tail elevation style.
It will however have a Side elevation attachment that can be installed.


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But why do you have Bolt on pivots? The answer is simple to give, but not to design.
This design will have an option to install a traverse for fixed casemate TD's (hopefully).


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A rough size comparison to the Gen 4 versions currently finalized.

Again. Prototype concept design... May be scrapped, but will definitely get refined.
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Will these fit a Taigen T-34?
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I'd have to see the turret to know 100%.
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Flash wires?

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