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PostSubject: Motors, Need Some Education On Can Length/Power   Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:31 am

My electric motor knowledge is extremely limited, so I need to ask this question.


I know typically, the longer can motors are more powerful, i.e. a 400 is longer than a 380, but are there any motors out there that are a standard diameter, but are shorter in length?


If there are, I assume they are more expensive.


My reason for asking is in case I want to try to obtain more powerful motors for low profile gearboxes where there is more limited room for longer motors.

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PostSubject: Re: Motors, Need Some Education On Can Length/Power   Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:46 am

Glen, 

The 400's are the same size as the stock motors, and they are much faster,but add no torque increase. 

 The 480's are longer can and will add more torque, but not as fast as the 400's.

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PostSubject: Re: Motors, Need Some Education On Can Length/Power   Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:48 am

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PostSubject: Re: Motors, Need Some Education On Can Length/Power   Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:54 am

Stince wrote:
Glen, 

The 400's are the same size as the stock motors, and they are much faster,but add no torque increase. 

 The 480's are longer can and will add more torque, but not as fast as the 400's.
Did not know that. Always assumed 'more power' and that was it. 

Maybe I'll move the set of 480s I have in a Mato 2.0 into a Taigen 4:1...

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PostSubject: Re: Motors, Need Some Education On Can Length/Power   Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:39 pm

Here are the 3 types of motors I have in my tanks. I'm not really sure WHAT they are, but I can tell you how they seem to perform.. 

These were adverstised as "Speed 400s" from great Phil at rctankwars. I've used them as upgrades to the stock Mato 2.0 gearboxes I run in both my Tiger and Panzer III

They ARE faster than stock HL motors.



These are the motors that come with mato 2.0 brass 3:1 gearboxes. I have NO idea what they are, but they seem to be better than stock HL motors. Shiny finish, black end cap.



These are 480s from Curtis. No noticeable speed increase, supposed torque increase though...

I can't really say much for or against these as Ive only run them in my Tiger, whose SLU I suspect as being near-death since the damn thing can barely move itself in a straight line NO matter which gearbox / battery is installed... 



Stock HL motors. Also come in the 4:1's that I ordered both from rctank.de AND tankarmy.com in Australia. Most comon motor I've seen on eBay and other HL style gears. 

Interesting / weird thing. These motors are in my 15 pound KV-2... which is REALLY powerful & fast as most of us know... the same motor / gear combo in my Panzer IV (8 pounds) moved the thing at a snails pace... who knows.


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PostSubject: Re: Motors, Need Some Education On Can Length/Power   Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:45 pm

read this from Mabuchi  it really is dry but it explains everything you ever wanted to know about electric motors.
http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/en_US/technic/index.html
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