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Stug III / IV
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Jagdpanther
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Elefant
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Jagdtiger
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Marder III
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PostSubject: Re: Top German WWII Tank Destoyer   Top German WWII Tank Destoyer - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Sep 16, 2013 11:02 pm

Glen, I always love it when someone else brings up the Japanese pole mine.

I'd probably vote for the StuG and variants as well.  while not packing the same punch, they were smaller, faster, and more then adequate to handle most of the stuff they came across(at least one the StuG IIIG becomes common). they were also infintely more versatile.   the smaller thing is a big deal. a jagdtiger is very hard to effectively hide, but a StuG can fit into a lot of places larger TDs couldn't.

also consider the service life.  StuGs were a good Ww2 workhorse TD. 10000 made.  but it was designed in 1936 and was officially in service as of January 1940.  i think that could easily classify it as a staggering engineering accomplishment that it was still able to be a viable platform  until the end of the war.

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Just to cause hate and dissention among the troops:P  Should the Stug actually be on this list? The Stug was not actually designed as a tank destroyer but an artillery infantry support vehicle. I don't think it even carried AP until March of 42 when they upgunned it to the high velocity 75.

And I quote:
 "The Sturmgeschütz III originated from German experiences in World War I when it was discovered that during the offensives on the western front the infantry lacked the means to effectively engage fortifications. The artillery of the time was heavy and not mobile enough to keep up with the advancing infantry to destroy bunkers, pillboxes, and other minor obstacles with direct fire."

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"While the StuG III was considered self-propelled artillery it was not initially clear which arm of the Wehrmacht would handle the new weapon. The Panzer arm, the natural user of tracked fighting vehicles, had no resources to spare for the formation of StuG units, and neither did the infantry branch. It was agreed, after a discussion, it would best be employed as part of the artillery arm."

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"As the StuG III was designed to fill an infantry close support combat role, early models were fitted with a low-velocity 75 mm StuK 37 L/24 gun to destroy soft-skin targets and fortifications. After the Germans encountered the Soviet KV-1 and T-34 tanks, the StuG III was first equipped with a high-velocity 75 mm StuK 40 L/43 main gun (Spring 1942) and in Autumn 1942 with the slightly longer 75 mm StuK 40 L/48 gun. These versions were known as the Sturmgeschütz 40 Ausführung F, Ausf. F/8 and Ausf. G."

On the argument about being built as an offensive weapon that is true but as an artillery weapon not a tank destroyer:

 "The StuG assault guns were cost-effective compared to the heavier German tanks, though in the anti-tank role they were best used defensively, as the lack of a traversable turret was a severe disadvantage in the assault role."

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Oh, I know the the Stug was original meant to be used for artillery, but considering it spent most of its operational history and the majority of it's production as a tank destroyer is why they were included on the list.

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Stince wrote:

Oh, I know the the Stug was original meant to be used for artillery, but considering it spent most of its operational history and the majority of it's production as a tank destroyer is why they were included on the list.
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Oh, I known that you know that I know! geek 

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If only I had known that you knew that I knew you knew I would never had brought it up...clown

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I didn't know that. Shocked 

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PostSubject: Re: Top German WWII Tank Destoyer   Top German WWII Tank Destoyer - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Sep 17, 2013 4:29 pm

plus the low velocity 75 was actually slightly better at taking out french tanks then the standard short 50 mm on hte Pz III, 47mm on hte 38Ts, and the pack 36 and pak 37 AT guns. so in France is was almost always used as anti tank support for German infantry.(and i might ad that the stug had only been in service for 4 or 5 months when France was attacked.) 

so while not strictly designed as a tank destroyer, it was used as one nearly from the beginning.  you might consider it a more natural TD the the other ones, simply because it slipped into the role so well, despite all intentions.

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