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PostSubject: Jagdpanther upgrade   Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:47 pm

So after my son ripped out a gear set of his Jagdpanther in Mississauga (first my KV-1 at Aquino in Oshawa), it was time to perform surgery...



Gut out the innards and brace it up.. Resin under the gearboxes, bulkhead brace behind them. Epoxied a 1mm belly pan over the old battery cover to give a nice working surface.




Yup. Went with Steel. No more GD torn teeth for this Jagdpanther... Resin goes up to the bottom of the gearbox mounts. Had to dremel out the screw clearance for the gearbox frame fasteners (2 flathead screws).


 

2mm styrene bulkhead/brace epoxied into place. Will add another 1mm sheet to the opening area for mounting more stuff.

Still working on the design for a 3D printed gun recoil kit... Looking at a super compact version for you Dean, current design shows about 12mm of travel with a stock arm that comes with the Emax servo. I'm looking at some springs for incorporating the recoil.

Worst case is that I put the old on back in for now...
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:21 pm


Clark KT Board installed (In an old RX18 box, Velcro'd down)
Receiver installed.
Gears worn in (run for 30-45 minutes with grease/no load) direct power hookup. Heat sinks added and will add in a small fan hooked up to one of the channels on the receiver to get some air flow over the motors...


Battery retaining wall and cross beam (12x12mm square tube) installed. Battery is Velcro'd.
Rear angled panel has been epoxied into place as well as screwed in.

Still going to add in the master power switch, and aluminum crossbar/stiffener just to the rear of the receiver. Also need the speaker mount, volume control, etc...
Then I'll finish the upper.
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:32 pm

That's a nice clean set up so far, well done in there.

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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:46 pm

So decided to do a bit more to complete the lower of the JP.
Battery cable connection to the clark.

WTF You may say? Is that Loom on the battery cable? Why yes. Yes it is.
What is with those funky bends you ask? All the better to route neatly.



Some pieces of tape currently holding the switch plate and the aluminum crossbeam in place. I will have a couple more cable clamps in place to secure the battery cable loom side more securely.


You will note the use of a Mark One Eyeball for aligning the cross beam behind the elevation gear on the upper.


The keen eyed folk may notice that I've done something to one of the spades that connect to the switch. I added heat shrink to one (the other is forthcoming) in order to ensure no bridging accidentally. The loom loop will go the other way once complete to prevent any pushing against the Clark board.

Need to grab some nice truss head machine screws to secure the crossbeam in place..Next will be the speaker, Not sure if I will enhance the switch mount to put in the volume pot or not. Maybe I'll just short that and do a MikeC and run it loud... Smile But once the speaker is in place it will be time to Bind and field test the lower...
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:26 pm

That is a sweet setup. I only have a rudimentary understanding of the components used but I
appreciate how organized it is! Where did you get the heat sinks for the motors? I like the idea of the bulk heads but don't have near enough experience to understand how best to customize the inside of a tank. Look great!
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:42 am

Heat sinks were off of Ebay.
As this is my first full conversion, I'm learning as I go... I did look at the tanks of several others who customize their tanks, aka gut tthem and rebuild them (Dgsselkirk & MikeC jump to the forefront, but there are many more).
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:02 am

OK. So the lower hull is pretty much complete except for a magnet or five to be installed for securing the upper hull to the lower hull.


On/Off switch, speaker, and volume control installed. Still a ton of room if I want to add in an Amplifier. No Smoker for this tank, although I could mount it beside the Clark/Receiver.


The overall layout of the lower hull. I'm debating on securing the hull with magnets and/or a latch system...
Cross bracing and bulkheads fully installed.



The Clark Board nestled in the hull. Wiring routing is controlled to ensure that wires to the upper hull are clear and simple to work on/remove.



I ditched the idea of a fan for the front motors. In the next iteration (Other son's Jagdpanther) I'll make sure the bulkhead has vent holes to ensure the fan(s) are mounted lower. I may still put a fan over the clark board (to cool the FETs slightly).



The prototype Jarlath Compact Recoil unit, installed. 5mm tube pivot. Custom Gen 1 Jagdpanther mantlet mount on left. (With a heavily modded mantlet).



Taigen HID Flash until installed. (Required additional drilling through the recoil unit. Will be incorporated into Gen 3 aka Revision 2.0)



Had to trim the airsoft feeder above the recoil unit. It was interfering with the servo linkage operation. Also had to trim a single tab from the pivot swivel bracket as it scraped the servo (Barely).
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:08 am

Nice, looks very sturdy !
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:26 pm

Very neat layout Mike !
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:05 pm

In regards to heat sinks on motors , do you think they run hot ? I've never checked my tanks after a 10 minute run , since I thought it was never an issue since it's in a gear reduction gearbox , I'm going to check my stock henglongs next time ,got my curiosity , I know running between grass and dirt will make a difference , grass is  much harder on the drive trains , we all know that , lo,
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:01 am

I don't know. But I have a pair of kids who will run tanks until a 2S 5000Mah Battery alarms... And then some.
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:39 am

And so I have hit my first roadblock.. And it is a ^%$%& pita...

Heng Long JP with metal tracks, sprockets & idlers.

New Taigen Steel gearbox... = Old Sprockets do not fit any more... Oh FFS!!!!!

Knowing my luck a set of Taigen sprockets will Fubar the track alignment too...
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:44 am

why Metal Tracks nobody really uses them

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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:49 am

Airbrushler wrote:
why Metal Tracks nobody really uses them
Cause that is what the tank came with. Which type of tracks is immaterial however.

New gearbox motors have larger socket head cap screws which do not fit the HL Sprockets...
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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:30 am

Very nice setup! Especially for your first conversion!

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PostSubject: Re: Jagdpanther upgrade   Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:43 pm

So the trials have ended... At the last meet (Sept 2017 KW Garrison) my son drove the tank for over 3 hours in battle while running into everything under the sun (except water thankfully).

The recoil unit performed flawlessly. Only issue was a slight mis-alignment of the cannon in relation to vehicle centerline which was result of using an ultra thin wall 5mm OD brass tube for the pivot. One side developed a flat spot from hitting the plastic mount in the turret (teach me to cheap out on tubing)...

So a very successful test run. YAY!

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