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Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:06 pm | |
| This is just a preview since this is a Christmas Present. I am checking it out, then it will be wrapped up for Dec. 25th Good thing I am checking it out, there are a few problems but the overall features are good. I have a set of Waltersons Gearboxes for it and it will be getting an SLU IR conversion. The BAD 1.) Idler Mount (metal) on the Track Tensioning System is broken; Broken part looks like this both sides shown, I need the right one; http://www.asiatam.com/ersatz-teile-kettenspanner-fuer-tiger-p-833.htmlThe AFF Shop says they will get me a replacement part. IMHO, these cast metal parts should be OK for plastic, I don't know how they will do with heavier metal tracks. 2.) Broken Speaker Mount (easy fix) 3.) Lower Hull Cracked (easy fix) The GOOD STUFF; Steel Wheels (at least plastic replicas of them) Coupala, Late Style Turret Mounted Spare Track Links Headlight, Single, Late Style General Detail of the front Zimmerit Lift Lugs It also has the switch under the operable radio operators hatch and the quick releas uppr hull, metal "belly pan" with torsion bars. Here is the objective, when completed; _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:04 pm | |
| Still no replacement Idler Arm. Karen at the AFF Shop has been trying to get me one. She has enlisted the help of the new U.S. Taigen dealer but I have not heard anything definative. So, I thought I would try to look after it myself, using my drill press, a home made jig, drill bits, a brass pin and JB Weld. The JB Weld is setting up now, we will see how this goes tomorrow when the JB Weld has cured.. _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Airbrushler Retired
Posts : 2567 Join date : 2012-04-27 Age : 60 Location : Windsor, ON
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:18 pm | |
| that sucks too bad the museum had to go through this again and the you got a bad egg Glen looks like you are doing a great job fixing it |
| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:32 pm | |
| There really hasn't been any additional cost, just the aggravation. I am sure this one was subjected to a "jolt" between China and here, somewhere. I have fixed the hull, the jack, the speaker and hopefully, the Idler Arm. Hopefully this thing fits up tomorrow when I can check it out after the JB Weld is cured. I could see this repair being stronger than the original. The original pin was just a cast piece, part of the complete Idler Arm, where the pin meets the main part. it is basically "break along the dotted line". Using the strength quoted for JB Weld and calculating the surface area of the glued area, theoretically, it would take 400 to 500 pounds to pull it out, but we're not going to test that. The brass pin is stronger and the JB Weld will hold them together and reinforce the casting. I think the original Idler Arm design will be prone to breakage, especially if metal tracks are used. If Taigen is going to sell in the U.S. and Canada, they MUST have replacement parts available; we are newly into them being sold in North America so I hope the parts will become more plentiful in the near future. I was not prepared to wait, I would like to start my build as soon as the SLU's arrive, I had nothing to lose by trying a repair. _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Strato50 General
Posts : 2188 Join date : 2012-03-28 Age : 39 Location : Hamilton, On
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:54 pm | |
| That looks rock solid!
Im still waiting on news of the HennTech idler arms... the asiatam-style will fit both of our tanks, glen. It's basically the same idler arm, in steel, but with the attachment piece being 3cm long instead of 3/8 "
Yours will never break now though! _____________________________________________ Tiger I - Panzer II - Panzer III - Panzer IV - Chi Nu Kai - Panther G - KV-1b 756(r) M4A3(76) Sherman - T-34/85 - M3 Grant - SECRET PROJECT
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:29 am | |
| - Strato50 wrote:
Im still waiting on news of the HennTech idler arms... the asiatam-style will fit both of our tanks, glen. It's basically the same idler arm, in steel, but with the attachment piece being 3cm long instead of 3/8 "
Sounds interesting Here are some pictures from this morning; _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:25 am | |
| Looking forward to working on this one, soon _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:36 pm | |
| I had an unexpected turn of events yesterday. Tony, from Big Boy Toys Airsoft (Taigen's new U.S. importer, had offered to send me a spare Idler Arm. Well, yesterday I received it, with a whole, new lower hull assembly Way over what I expected, a VERY nice move on his part. Details of the suspension system on the spare lower hull; Metal arms and other components; _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Airbrushler Retired
Posts : 2567 Join date : 2012-04-27 Age : 60 Location : Windsor, ON
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:49 pm | |
| so is the top hull on this metal or plastic glen? |
| | | Stince General
Posts : 2378 Join date : 2012-03-21 Age : 50 Location : Windsor, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:00 am | |
| Glen put that tank away, your not suppose play with it until Christmas. I'm telling your wife! _____________________________________________ HL Panzer III | HL Tiger | HL Jagdpanther | HL Panther | Mato Sherman Hooben Elefant | HL Pershing | HL Bergepanzer IV | Tamiya Leopard 1A | WSN T-34 HL "Golden" Pan-Tiger | M16 Halftrack | HL Panzer IV | Tamiya KV-1 | Tamiya Tiger
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:13 am | |
| - Airbrushler wrote:
- so is the top hull on this metal or plastic glen?
The upper hull and turret are both plastic. - Stince wrote:
- Glen put that tank away, your not suppose play with it until Christmas.
I'm telling your wife! Good thing I checked it out, based on the timeline from when it got here in November, I would have spent most of January getting the damage fixed _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Stince General
Posts : 2378 Join date : 2012-03-21 Age : 50 Location : Windsor, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:55 pm | |
| Okay, but now wrap it up and put back under the tree. Remeber, Santa's watching! _____________________________________________ HL Panzer III | HL Tiger | HL Jagdpanther | HL Panther | Mato Sherman Hooben Elefant | HL Pershing | HL Bergepanzer IV | Tamiya Leopard 1A | WSN T-34 HL "Golden" Pan-Tiger | M16 Halftrack | HL Panzer IV | Tamiya KV-1 | Tamiya Tiger
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| | | Stince General
Posts : 2378 Join date : 2012-03-21 Age : 50 Location : Windsor, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:21 pm | |
| _____________________________________________ HL Panzer III | HL Tiger | HL Jagdpanther | HL Panther | Mato Sherman Hooben Elefant | HL Pershing | HL Bergepanzer IV | Tamiya Leopard 1A | WSN T-34 HL "Golden" Pan-Tiger | M16 Halftrack | HL Panzer IV | Tamiya KV-1 | Tamiya Tiger
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:54 pm | |
| Nothing say's Christmas like a Panzer! .................and, OK. its official, now; _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Captain Action of the Pan-Tiger Panzer Div.
Posts : 375 Join date : 2012-03-25 Location : Behind you
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:01 pm | |
| Nice tank but.....
I think if you used a Pan-Tiger for your project, it would make a better investment for the future.
Now dont glue your fingers together this time. _____________________________________________ The Great Pan-Tiger |
| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:07 pm | |
| - Captain Action wrote:
- Nice tank but.....
I think if you used a Pan-Tiger for your project, it would make a better investment for the future.
No doubt at all, I am sure they would concur on RCU. I have completed the mounting modifications and they and the gearboxes fit PERFECTLY, now. Since they were made to fit an HL, not a Taigen, I expected some re-working. The short story is that the plate has to be split and be made .185" wider, and some mounting slots have to be made or modified to fit the Taigen's plate. I have used 3mm hex-head cap screws, cut to fit, with lock washers, instead of the Pillips head screws. The Taigen plate needs some holes drilled to make clearance for the Waltersons screw pattern. Two of these must have short shanks to not interfere with the frame rails; these are the red one's, white are the other gearbox screws, natural finish screws secure the mounting plate parts. _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:26 am | |
| Wheels are done, upper and lower hull have their base coat, track base coat completed. Breaking in the 400 Motors today. Should have an SLU, soon _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:19 pm | |
| Spare tracks on the turret, painting done. Before After _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:35 pm | |
| Here's how they had the paint applied. Taigen spare traps are very securely glued in place to the point where you could do a lot of damage getting them off. So, I sprayed the whole thing "yellow" Masked it Paint, carefully with a light touch on the airbrush Un-mask and it looks like my previous post. Lot to do yet, brown camo stripes, weathering the track, etc. _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Strato50 General
Posts : 2188 Join date : 2012-03-28 Age : 39 Location : Hamilton, On
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:18 am | |
| Looks fantastic Glen! _____________________________________________ Tiger I - Panzer II - Panzer III - Panzer IV - Chi Nu Kai - Panther G - KV-1b 756(r) M4A3(76) Sherman - T-34/85 - M3 Grant - SECRET PROJECT
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:11 pm | |
| - Strato50 wrote:
- Looks fantastic Glen!
Thanks, there are more finishing touches to do on them. I thought the subject may be of interest to any other purchasers of Taigen Tigers. Those cosmetic spare tracks are really "nailed" on there; not a deal breaker, just have to know there is an option to painting w/o removing them, I would (and plan to) buy another Taigen Tiger _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:26 pm | |
| Gunter checks out the trial run of the SLU etc. placement Top view _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:53 pm | |
| ALL SLU units are hooked up, functioning and proved out Now I need to clean up the installation and secure the wiring, etc.., then we get into the finishing touches. _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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| | | Stince General
Posts : 2378 Join date : 2012-03-21 Age : 50 Location : Windsor, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:44 pm | |
| When is the field test? _____________________________________________ HL Panzer III | HL Tiger | HL Jagdpanther | HL Panther | Mato Sherman Hooben Elefant | HL Pershing | HL Bergepanzer IV | Tamiya Leopard 1A | WSN T-34 HL "Golden" Pan-Tiger | M16 Halftrack | HL Panzer IV | Tamiya KV-1 | Tamiya Tiger
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| | | Glen B Lieutenant General
Posts : 1816 Join date : 2012-03-22 Age : 72 Location : Fort Erie, Ontario
| Subject: Re: Tiger I, Late (Taigen from the AFF Museum Shop), to be done in Abt 506 Colours Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:53 am | |
| - Stince wrote:
- When is the field test?
Its a little ways away, yet Picture as of 08:30, today. _____________________________________________ "Luck favours the prepared!."
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