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PostSubject: Re: Strato's M26A1 Pershing   Strato's M26A1 Pershing - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 23, 2014 12:44 pm

Do you mean you have a Clark board already for your Pershing and your poor T-34 has been out one for  the last 6 months?!?   Shocked  Shocked  Shocked 


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Oh no no no... but eventually yes Sad I 'borrowed' my Sherman's Clark just to see if everything I had thrown together works Wink

Although it looks like the Pershing will see battle before the T-34!

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Strato50 wrote:
Although it looks like the Pershing will see battle before the T-34!

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I would suggest Comrade Strato that the T-34 be prepared for battle very soon... Comrade Stalin does not tolerate these state of affairs for very long... russian

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Stince wrote:
Strato50 wrote:
Although it looks like the Pershing will see battle before the T-34!

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Poor Poor Stalin i know how he feels, Jordan needs to get that T-34 going Stalin will throw him in the Gulag...lol

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PostSubject: Re: Strato's M26A1 Pershing   Strato's M26A1 Pershing - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMon Jun 23, 2014 8:19 pm

Added a coat of Frosted Glass and I think I overdid it... it's really, really frosty! I mainly wanted to seal the decals onto the hull so I'll probably give it a dark green or black wash next.

Recoil tapped and bolted in, nice and strong and it works, yay.

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looking pretty sweet nice job it don't look too frosted to me

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It's looking Jordan, really liking the casting effect.
Now I wished I did more on mine.  Sad 

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I washed it and washed it and... well you get the idea.

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105mm howitzer anyone? The short end of my barrel replacement job fits in the recoil mechanism just as well... this might actually work for close combat.

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Small update... I installed my tried and tested upgrade motors & this time actually bothered doing one at a time. So I drove the tank around with 1 upgrade and 1 stock, and noticed a good difference in performance. I'd put it at about a 10-15% RPM increase under normal load. The motors have a nice torque boost too.

Learned some new things as well. The screws holding the motors to the gearbox frame are 2.5M threaded. Bought a set of hex-head bolts just to test them out, and they fit nice and snug. 

Also removing and installing the stock HL pinion gear is a huge pain. I've been trying to find replacements but no luck.. 

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PostSubject: Re: Strato's M26A1 Pershing   Strato's M26A1 Pershing - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jun 29, 2014 10:09 am

Heheh...

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Strato, my boggies showed up two weeks ago and just got around to looking at them. My god that plastic is awful ? I think they have less give then the hard plastic one piece from the original. I am a little disappointed at that.

Did you use the stock springs and just replaced the swing arm or did you upgrade the springs as well ? Do you think I need to ?

There is no way you can remove the plastic wheels on the new boggies....... So I measured it and the metal rim is exactly 1 1/2 inch, so I am going to get a piece of stryene, drill a 1 1/2" hole and use it as a mask for spray painting the wheels. I should be able to do front and back but will have to leave the middle bare.

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I left the middle and insides bare as well. Not a huge concern for me really, and I didn't want to paint the small screws in there.

I'm using the stock springs and they seem pretty stiff. The first road wheel is VERY stiff, mostly because of how that suspension is designed... I'm considering cutting that spring down a little to make it a bit softer!

Yea rubber rims would have been nice... and quieter... it sounds like a freight train.

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Hey Jordan. What are the new motors? I am looking for some too. What were they rated and can you give me the dimensions please...

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Hey Jordan. What are the new motors? I am looking for some too. What were they rated and can you give me the dimensions please...

Here's where I 'discovered' the motors I use.

http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-PKMOT-1009.html

...and they're identical & available here too

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJSS5&P=0

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Weight: 80.2g
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Current: 1.3mA
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Thanks Jordan, damn! Just a bit too long. I am looking for something under 39mm. At 19000 RPM that should make them quicker! I think the standard HL is around 13,000...

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Ive been digging for your motors and nothing has come up with reliable specs Sad 

Why must you build such squishy squat little tanks? Wink

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hey Jordan how do you like your metal roadwheels and swingarms

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hey Jordan how do you like your metal roadwheels and swingarms

Hey Greg Very Happy

The wheels are nice, they aren't too heavy and have ball bearings throughout so they spin nicely. As Mike said the 'rubber' part is actually hard plastic and could have been better, but they are functionally very nice.

Swing arms are great too. They didn't require any special work and the included machine screws fit nice and snugly holding the wheels onto the axle.

Overall a great Pershing upgrade for a little more at-the-wheel weight & a smoother drive.

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Fully operational Very Happy

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Pershing looks Awesome!!!

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I just installed these bad boys... shipping from HobbyRaw didn't take too long, and was free, so.. yay!

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Let's just say my slow as mud Pershing suddenly became my FASTEST tank. Holy smokes. 

I tuned my radio down to 45% forward and 50% reverse just to get something that approaches a reasonable speed for this tank. I'll set it up on dual-rate to demonstrate Oct 18.. you won't believe this. The torque is still there, and probably moreso than any stock setup. The motors just scream RPM and power. Like YHR said in his motor post it's difficult to say whether the increase in power and speed is strictly from the motor or the fact these gearboxes have a full set of bearings throughout. I'll take it, highly recommended especially for modern tanks. 

These gearboxes on a larger sprocket like a Panzer III will be absolutely impossible to control. Whee!!

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Yes .  These are very good gear boxes.  If this was done on a 3:1 ( 4 shaft) gearbox, WWII tanks would be very happy. 

They are so smooth.  I parked my leopard on a hill and it just rolled down the hill.  I have never had a tank do that before.

Lots of torque too.  I run these with an RX18 Very Happy .

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I left the middle and insides bare as well. Not a huge concern for me really, and I didn't want to paint the small screws in there.

I'm using the stock springs and they seem pretty stiff. The first road wheel is VERY stiff, mostly because of how that suspension is designed... I'm considering cutting that spring down a little to make it a bit softer!

Yea rubber rims would have been nice... and quieter... it sounds like a freight train.


Strato, I ordered a set of Tamiya Pershing rubber rims and they fit the HL Pershing metal bogies quite nicely. Now I just need to see how they run.

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Great posting, the tank looks amazing.
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