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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:14 am

Fine Mike, I will be shipping all my tanks to your maintenance depot for conversion! LOL! Just kidding!

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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:38 am

The main problem I think is the stock HL on/off wiring on a double pole switch. The proper wiring of a switch should be that either connects or dis-connect the neg(-) wire. However, the way they wired the HL switches is that they cheat and use the double pole switch also as a connection for the Pos and the Neg for the battery. So basically you have both Neg and Pos soldering points on this cheaply made switch so if your soldering is bad, or if the switch breaks, you are basically connecting Pos and Neg together, fried either the board or the battery or both.

Single pole switches forces you to only break one connection between the Neg (-) so in theory you can never fried anything. It will just either have power, or no power.
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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:46 am

Mike, do you have a recommended source for that switch?

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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:02 pm

Freaky and I both shopped at Sayal (One of those Super Electronic Parts Store here) but I am not sure if they have it in Fort Erie. I am pretty sure Radio Shack/The Source also carry them but will cost more. I will look into it.

Otherwise I can grab a bunch and bring it out for the next battle day. Like I said they also come in round base so if you don't have a rectangle openings it would be easier to just drill a hole and put the round ones in.

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=computer-parts&product=2750693

This is where I get it from:

http://www.sayal.com/zinc/zinc_SEARCH.asp?txtSEARCH=rocker+switch&x=20&y=20
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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:37 pm

Thanks, Mike

I will see if I can find them locally, if not, I might just take you up on that offer.

What is the hook up diagram for soldering the two red and two black wires to the contacts on that switch?

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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:06 pm

Taigen Tiger I switch.

I just took a look at the switch on the Taigen Tiger I, it is under the radio operators hatch.

The stock switch that comes with the tank does look to be identical to the HL switch, I am wondering if that is a concern?


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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:48 pm

hachleopard2 wrote:
Battle day October 26 video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMGTuJUpS0M&list=UUBy0mJDZgV4HpgVnoMb3V3w
Thx for the video.I was disappointed that we could not make it for this last event of the year.
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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:38 pm

Strato50 wrote:
Thanks for coming out everybody! It was windy, and cold but we survived. No sunburn either!

Alas it seems to be true and my tanks are not infallible. My T-34 erupted into flames before it's maiden battle... oh boy! I will investigate the cause and update those interested parties on what happened. 

If anyone has a source for better main power switches, please share!
I will tag on here.
I have two problems I would like to run by everyone one may be easy the other was almostb fatal twice the night before tank day.

1) I have a Taigen tiger 1 and a Taigen Tigerturm both with clark boards.
Both work but during operation both will shut off, then i turn off the relative switches and restart and they both work.
the timing for the shut off is sporadic so I can not say it is one minute or ten minutes.
I have had this happen at least 5 times.

Any ideas ??

2) I have had 3 instances of melting wires ( My T55 ), one ( Back in the spring)  I was totally responsible for I plugged a wire into the wrong port on the clark board and very quickly had smoke and melting plastic in a bundle of wires. I pulled the offending plug out of the board complete with the board pins. Curtis helped me out and got the board fixed and helped with the wiring and it was OK until the night before tank day.

I charged the battery and plugged it into the battery cable ( with both switches off )and almost instantly the battery wires going to the board started to smoke and melt.
I cut the burnt section off and installed a new plug and wire, plugged the battery in and smoke started to come from a spot closer to the board.

Any more ideas ??

Wayne
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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:17 pm

Lincs Winks Wayne wrote:
Strato50 wrote:
Thanks for coming out everybody! It was windy, and cold but we survived. No sunburn either!

Alas it seems to be true and my tanks are not infallible. My T-34 erupted into flames before it's maiden battle... oh boy! I will investigate the cause and update those interested parties on what happened. 

If anyone has a source for better main power switches, please share!
I will tag on here.
I have two problems I would like to run by everyone one may be easy the other was almostb fatal twice the night before tank day.

1) I have a Taigen tiger 1 and a Taigen Tigerturm both with clark boards.
Both work but during operation both will shut off, then i turn off the relative switches and restart and they both work.
the timing for the shut off is sporadic so I can not say it is one minute or ten minutes.
I have had this happen at least 5 times.

Any ideas ??

2) I have had 3 instances of melting wires ( My T55 ), one ( Back in the spring)  I was totally responsible for I plugged a wire into the wrong port on the clark board and very quickly had smoke and melting plastic in a bundle of wires. I pulled the offending plug out of the board complete with the board pins. Curtis helped me out and got the board fixed and helped with the wiring and it was OK until the night before tank day.

I charged the battery and plugged it into the battery cable ( with both switches off )and almost instantly the battery wires going to the board started to smoke and melt.
I cut the burnt section off and installed a new plug and wire, plugged the battery in and smoke started to come from a spot closer to the board.

Any more ideas ??

Wayne
Wayne,
The T55 board I need to take a look at. I have seen a few instances of wires getting hot, I am not positive but there may be a defective diode on your board. Only way to know for sure is if i desolder the diode and compare, I actually have replacements here ready to roll so if you would send me the board please.

With regard to the Tiger and Tigerturms I have no idea why that would happen. It could be that there is a loose connection somewhere or a cold solder joint that disconnects. Either way I would love to take a peak at them and see this, quite possibly I can repair whatever boogeyman your systems have.
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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:00 pm

Freakydude wrote:
Lincs Winks Wayne wrote:
Strato50 wrote:
Thanks for coming out everybody! It was windy, and cold but we survived. No sunburn either!

Alas it seems to be true and my tanks are not infallible. My T-34 erupted into flames before it's maiden battle... oh boy! I will investigate the cause and update those interested parties on what happened. 

If anyone has a source for better main power switches, please share!
I will tag on here.
I have two problems I would like to run by everyone one may be easy the other was almostb fatal twice the night before tank day.

1) I have a Taigen tiger 1 and a Taigen Tigerturm both with clark boards.
Both work but during operation both will shut off, then i turn off the relative switches and restart and they both work.
the timing for the shut off is sporadic so I can not say it is one minute or ten minutes.
I have had this happen at least 5 times.

Any ideas ??

2) I have had 3 instances of melting wires ( My T55 ), one ( Back in the spring)  I was totally responsible for I plugged a wire into the wrong port on the clark board and very quickly had smoke and melting plastic in a bundle of wires. I pulled the offending plug out of the board complete with the board pins. Curtis helped me out and got the board fixed and helped with the wiring and it was OK until the night before tank day.

I charged the battery and plugged it into the battery cable ( with both switches off )and almost instantly the battery wires going to the board started to smoke and melt.
I cut the burnt section off and installed a new plug and wire, plugged the battery in and smoke started to come from a spot closer to the board.

Any more ideas ??

Wayne
Wayne,
The T55 board I need to take a look at. I have seen a few instances of wires getting hot, I am not positive but there may be a defective diode on your board. Only way to know for sure is if i desolder the diode and compare, I actually have replacements here ready to roll so if you would send me the board please.

With regard to the Tiger and Tigerturms I have no idea why that would happen. It could be that there is a loose connection somewhere or a cold solder joint that disconnects. Either way I would love to take a peak at them and see this, quite possibly I can repair whatever boogeyman your systems have.
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I am coming to Angus on Saturday, is there any chance you would like the whole tank or just the board.

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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:23 pm

Wayne,
T55 just the board is good
Tiger - Whole tank is better as I will want to trace ALL the connections. Lets hope its a simple thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Can-Am Battleday October 2014?   Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:14 pm

Strato50 wrote:
Freakydude wrote:
12 amp 125 volt single pole rocker switches how many you guys want?

Can we forget about mounting them into the former HL switch cutout under the tank?

It'd be nice but I'm going to assume a much higher rated switch just won't fit there.


Jordan,

Check this out........ "Rated" for 20 seconds on fire and still works.

http://tankarmy.com/heng-long-tank/product_info.php/improved-power-cable-kit-for-heng-long-116-rc-tanks-p-1497?osCsid=j7ennl4d2skf97920uepnr3au3

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PostSubject: How to block track recoil on Heng Long tanks   Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:50 am

How to block track recoil on Heng Long tanks. This is easy way

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1447734
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