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So the CrossRC BT-8 showed up in a giant box. This will be my next build. Here are some pictures of the frame and swing arms. It is suppose to be amphibious, so there is lots of gaskets and factory water proofing. Being belt driven also helps.

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Ahhh, that explains why the shell is so darn huge...1/12 scale Smile


There’s no way that thing will fit/be able to run on the field, especially some of the bridges...looks like it’s highway driving only!
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Or maybe building it and flipping it to your friend in the US!
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Buying lottery tix tonight! I lost a bet to a friend and have to buy a rc boat. This would cover it. Ha haa
Really want to see how it turns out and runs!
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Mitch, not this American. Another one that buys from me quite often in Connecticut. Shoveler74 (Chris) used to come up here and battle (I don't know if you have met him) but has sadly relocated to the West Coast (kinda). Not near here anyway.
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Hey Mike,

Genuinely sorry if I offended, wasn’t my place to comment.

I only met Chris and Cindy once during the last indoor battle day.
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Hey Mike,

Genuinely sorry if I offended, wasn’t my place to comment.

I only met Chris and Cindy once during the last indoor battle day.

Not at all. We missed Chris and Cindy for sure !
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Progressing thru the weekend. Skid plate on the borttom and the front. You can see the belt drive population unit (black unit) in the 2nd pic. Servo madness on the third pic. Asked for 2x35Kg pull for the steering and 10Kg for the transmission. I only have 20Kg pull lying around so Amazon sent me two 35Kg and one of my 20Kg will be use for the transmission. The lower mechanical area is completely sealed so it is like building a submarine. There is an opening to the upper hull where electronics are.

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Looks nice. How does the hull look/materials?
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That looks so awesome! 
The grated hole on the underside of the hull towards the rear. Is that the intake for the water propulsion?
Cheepy servo's from amazon hold up surprisingly well. I've got mostly Savox and 3 Brothers servos in my crawlers. A Reefs RC or 2 as well. The draw a bit of power though.
Thanks for updates. 
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Jarlath wrote:
Looks nice. How does the hull look/materials?

Quite strong. Plastic is very hard but shiny, and the ladder metal frame actually sits in a channel in the plastic bottom so it is very rigid, plus the skid plate help also. It is from CrossRC so I am not too worry about quality. Their 1/12 scale army trucks are legendary.
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Shoveler74 wrote:
That looks so awesome! 
The grated hole on the underside of the hull towards the rear. Is that the intake for the water propulsion?
Cheepy servo's from amazon hold up surprisingly well. I've got mostly Savox and 3 Brothers servos in my crawlers. A Reefs RC or 2 as well. The draw a bit of power though.
Thanks for updates. 
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Yes it is ! I don't know how fast it will run in water but pretty sure it will be water proof !
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Last update from the weekend. All the chassis mechanical stuff are done, 560 main drive motor and 540 for the propeller in the first pic. A clear cover water proof/seal the entire mechanical compartment in the 2nd pic. Last pic is all the electronics. Comes with lighting control, two BEC to drive the servos, and I have from Amazon two water-proof (just in case) 80A programmable ESCs. The ESCs/BECs will sit in the mechanical compartment.

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I wonder if it would be even worth putting heatsinks onto those brushed motors... With the clear water cover attached, there would be zero airflow in that watertight compartment. Brushed motors will get hot way faster than a brushless of the same rpm...
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That is a good freaking point........ I don't think there is room around the motors though. Maybe I will only put on the waterproofing top when I am actually going to go into water. Otherwise it will stay open to the upper and all the hatches are operational. I just have to worry about dust.
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The 540 brushed seems a bit overkill for the propulsion. You don't want it to go too fast or it does become a submarine. 
I'm sure someone will modify one of these to a water-cooled motor for the waterjet and a brushless motor for the wheels.
The programmable servos are very cool. I haven't had the chance use one yet. Excellent possibilities in control.

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The front compartment is not water tight and has a hatch to let water in so I think it can act as a ballast if it starts tipping up, or submarine mode Shocked . The 540 is so overkill it is not funny.

The ESCs are programmable not the servos......... Very Happy
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Okay functional test and discovered that the rear servo is not strong enough to push (Pull seems okay). The rear servo steers the 2 sets of tires at the end and also the rudder. Try disabling the rudder and is still no enough.

Will have to see if I can reduce the force needed or if I need a stronger servo.
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Ah yes. I read that wrong. In one of the pics you have the program cards next to the esc's. I have used Hobbywing 1080's before. Very nice and easy adjustability.
Before you go to a stronger servo, make sure your control rods aren't binding for some reason.

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Thanks Chris ! Yeah going to take it apart one by one and see if any of them are binding. The front one works so I have a little faith (vs the Puma.......... Crying or Very sad).
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I know I mentioned programmable servo's. I thought I should share an example.
This is one I have in my spare bin. I picked it up on a can't miss sale a while ago. They can be quite pricy!
Big Mike, commence drooling.

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Oh my god. It is in a case. Wow. Don't even want to ask how much. 440oz is about 12Kg pull when install in Canada.

BTW I got it all going with the existing 35Kg servo. The problem was I didn't tighten the servo arm properly (i.e. with the two lock screws and the top mount screw). So I am smooth sailing again !

Another question....... Everything seems to be working without the BEC. Should I bother with it ? The receiver seems to be driving the servos just fine without the BEC.

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Okay figured out if I don't use the BCE I won't get 8.4V to the servo and it won't be 35Kg pull so decided to put it in. The beast is alive. Just had a test run of the lower.

Need 8 channel for this:

1. Throttle 
2. Steering for the two 35Kg Servo
3. Turret Rotation
4. Gun Elevation
5. Two speed transmission servo (3 position on pots - Low/Neutral/High)
6. Throttle for propeller
7. Lighting 

The BCE patch board has two spot for fans so some kind of cooling might be in my future like Big Mike said.

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Very nice! Glad you got it figured out. 
I wish like hell I could build one myself!

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